lemmingrad ,

I thought the CUP23 was an historical achievement /s meanwhile people are still flying and taking their cars and shit.

Feathercrown ,


givesomefucks ,

All gas, no brakes...

We just broke the record for fossil fuel production back in October, and we've doubled production since 2012


We can't afford to wait four more years and hope we have a pro environment candidate. At this rate it'll take decades to correct another four years of stalling.

tsonfeir ,
@tsonfeir@lemm.ee avatar

It’s too late. There is no correcting this. People really need to wake up and prepare for the worst.

Burn_The_Right ,

FYI, this is the new argument of the conservatives hellbent on stopping normal people from addressing climate change.

Not addressing climate change has a worse outcome than addressing it.

tsonfeir ,
@tsonfeir@lemm.ee avatar

Is it? Can you quote one? Link? I’d love to see one admit it’s real.

spez_ ,

You can't prevent it. This is the new normal, now let's support our workers and support fossil fuels

Strawberry ,

oh fuck right off, doubling down supporting fossil fuels is not pro-worker

maness300 ,

It's not just 'conservatives' making this argument.

Anyone with a brain can recognize how we won't stop burning fossil fuels until it's no longer economical.

This is the result of greed, plain and simple. There is no solving it because we don't want to solve it.

lemmingrad ,

I mean, historically, we correct anti-social behavior using violence.

maness300 ,

How are you going to beat the vast majority of people into submission?

This isn't a "ruling class" issue. It's an "everyone" issue because we're all in on it.

If you didn't forego directly using fossil fuels, you're part of the problem.

If you don't want to acknowledge you're part of the problem, you're part of the problem.

lemmingrad ,

I am probably part of the issue, even though I never drove and I stopped taking planes.

How are you going to beat the vast majority of people into submission?

Not with wishful thinking and techno-optimism, that's for sure.

Gigan ,
@Gigan@lemmy.world avatar

A pro-environment candidate wouldn't be able to fix this anyway. 2/3 of the world live in rapidly developing countries and without their cooperation, nothing the US does will matter.

amzd ,

Someone has to lead the way, why not the countries that got us into this pickle?

youngGoku ,

Gotta start somewhere.

lemmingrad ,

The average westerner have order of magnitude more of a footprint than the average indian. Not to mention importations.

But I agree, a truely pro-environment candidate would probably get assasinated. Energy quotas aren't that popular.

i_have_no_enemies OP ,

side question is this website legit and factual when it says

“We already have all of the necessary solutions to decarbonize”


if someone can verify please tell me

tsonfeir ,
@tsonfeir@lemm.ee avatar

No, it is not factual. Sure there are methods to reduce carbon, but it’s like putting a Q-tip in a bucket of oil.

autotldr Bot ,

This is the best summary I could come up with:

For the first time on record, global warming has exceeded temperatures of 1.5 C over a 12-month period, European Union climate scientists reported this week.

The EU agency blamed human-caused climate change and the El Niño weather phenomenon that warms the Pacific Ocean for driving the record heat over the past year.

This week, officials with B.C.’s River Forecast Centre said the province’s snowpack is almost 40 per cent lower than normal for this time of year.

Although El Niño has began to weaken in the equatorial Pacific, marine air temperatures in general remained “at an unusually high level” in January, the EU agency added.

As part of the 2015 Paris Agreement, world leaders pledged to limit temperature rise to 1.5 C, which climate scientists argue to critical to limit disasters like heat waves, floods drought and wildfire.

The UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change has warned the world is not on track to meet those targets.

The original article contains 219 words, the summary contains 157 words. Saved 28%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!

i_have_no_enemies OP ,

Thread from half an year ago : https://lemmy.world/post/4867140

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